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No, Zara doesn’t handle Intro markers - I was just being very generic when I refered to that title format :wink:

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A question mainly aimed a Charlie …

As mentioned in another post - I am also having a look at SPC and hence going down the converting tag road.

I downloaded MP3TAG and the sample file posted by Charlie on 4th Jan and I could see the embedded SPC tags using MP3TAG but the file I uploaded (and attached here also) does not show the tags in MP3TAG but they both work OK in SPC!!

Any ideas???

Clean.mp3 (60.5 KB)

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Ron: Re-read Charlie’s posts on the previous page about how to set up MP3TAG. Specifically, you need to tell it to read only APE tags (not ID3 tags!). The reason, as Charlie says, is that the program will usually display ID3 tags in preference to any same-named APE tags (the ones SPC uses).

I haven’t examined your ‘clean’ file yet, but it may be that it contains some ‘blank’ or ‘null’ ID3 tags, which MP3TAG will dumbly display the (empty) contents of instead of the SPC APE tags?

Will try to confirm this later at home.

BFN
CAD

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As suspected, this was finger trouble on my part in using MP3TAG and unticking the wrong option! - Thanks for your help CAD.

So, it is possible to read and export APE tags to excel then (following a bit of manipulation) write them to mAirList mmd files.

It is also possible to save MMD files to excel therefore it is just the remaining excel to APE that is missing to be able to sync the tags in SPC and mAirList.

Getting there …

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Ron, here’s a step-by-step guide to seeing your SPC data in the MP3Tag grid: ;D

Start MP3Tag, then do the following:

  1. Click Tools, Options…, Tags, Mpeg.
  2. Make sure Read APE is ticked. You may also want to clear the two Read ID3 boxes, but that isn’t strictly necessary unless you have files tagged with both.
  3. Still in the Options dialog, click the Ape, Mpc … node.
  4. Make sure Read APE is ticked. You may also want to clear the Read ID3v1 box, but that isn’t strictly necessary unless you have files tagged with both.
  5. Click OK.
  6. Drag your file into the grid, then select it by clicking its icon in the grid.
  7. Click the Extended Tags toolbar button, or press Alt+T, or click View, Extended Tags…
    This will display your SPC/APE tag and all its contents.
    If you want to see these values in the grid, you will find it useful to take a screen grab of this dialog.

Maybe this will be all you require, in which case: fine!

Note that the grid does not show any of the SPC values. To do that, you will need to customise the grid’s columns; and to do that, you’ll find it helpful to have a screen grab of the Extended Tags dialog.

The steps below show how to add one of the SPC values to the grid. Repeat these steps for each SPC/APE tag value you want to display in the grid. Have your screen grab of the Extended Tags dialog open and displayed while you do this!

  1. Right-click any column HEADING and click Customise Columns…, or click View, Customise Columns…
  2. In the list on the left, click the column AFTER which you want to add your new column.
  3. Click New. The New column is added to the list.
  4. In the Name field, change the column name to the name you want MP3Tag to display in the grid.
  5. In the Value and Field fields, type %xxxxx%, where xxxxx is the tag name from the Extended Tags dialog.
    It doesn’t matter whether you type this in UPPER or lower case.
  6. Click OK. Confirm that the new column and value are shown in the grid.

Repeat steps 2 through 5 above (while customising columns) to add all the columns you wish (for example, Intro, Cue, Segue, etc.).

Use the Move Up/Down buttons in the Customise Columns dialog to put the columns into the order you want them displayed in the grid.

Hope that helps!

BFN
CAD

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CAD

I think you were typing your last post when I sent my lasy post! Turns out that I was ticking in the Options…, Tags, APE, Mpc… and not Options…, Tags, Mpeg.

Thanks for the guide to displaying the additional SPC tags.

My current theory is to use SPC for scheduling (and possibly automation) and mAirList for live assist whilst avoiding the need to go through the taggig process twice!

My preference would be to tag in mAirList and copy that data to the APE tags but (per my last post) that is the bit that is missing so it currently looks like tagging in SPC and then exporting that to mAirList :frowning:

Further investigation required methinks …

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IIRC, there have been threads in here about using SPC to generate M3U ‘logs’ which mAirList can run in AUTO: so maybe the answer is to use mAirList for both purposes?

looks like tagging in SPC and then exporting that to mAirList
Yes, I think that would be the only way to do it, short of something like an AutoIt script which could use a spreadsheet created by [b]ExportMMDFiles[/b] in one window, and the SPC 'tagger' in a second window, to automate the process. That would still be a tad complex to write, though it [i]could[/i] be done. -- BFN CAD